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GGPoker Ambassador Daniel Negreanu has made his personal views on VPNing perfectly clear in a recent podcast.
On the latest episode of The Orbit, a round-table discussion hosted by Cardplayer Lifestyle's Robbie Strazynski, Negreanu stated that he 'didn't give a crap' where players were located, as long as they were who they said they were.
The Orbit - Episode 4
Negreanu was joined on The Orbit by Run It Once Poker founder Phil Galfond, partypoker Partner Rob Yong and the former managing director of the Microgaming Poker Network (MPN) Alex Scott.
During the episode, the panel discussed the role of regulation in poker, and whether regulation is a barrier to how online poker should run.
Negreanu said that the obvious goal for online poker is for everyone to play against one another, but made some interesting comments about VPNing.
What is a VPN?
A Virtual Private Network is a tool that enables you to mask your internet protocol (IP) address, giving you online privacy and anonymity.
Many people use this to watch shows on Netflix that they are unable to in their country, but more importantly for this conversation poker players can use this in order to conceal their location.
Poker sites have repeatedly stated that the use of a VPN is against their terms of service, with 2018 World Championship of Online Poker (WCOOP) champion 'wann2play' was stripped of their title and $1.35 million in prize money due to 'multi-accounting/ghosting' and use of a VPN.
Negreanu's Views
This isn't the first time that Negreanu has spoken out on the ethics of using a VPN in order to play poker from a country where it is not allowed.
On this occasion, he referred back to his time as a PokerStars ambassador in his views on this topic, saying that he found it difficult to understand why PokerStars spent so much money and resources trying to catch people 'VPNing', or playing from countries they're not supposed to.
'I've said this [before],' Negreanu went on. 'I personally don't give a crap where you're playing from as long as it's you. It doesn't bother me.'
'I personally don't give a crap where you're playing from as long as it's you'
Negreanu posed a hypothetical where Senegal banned Apple products, and whether or not it would be up to Apple to police whether people were using an iPhone or an iPad in that country.
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'I don't think it makes a lot of sense for the companies to police in these cases when the rule is stupid in the first place. It doesn't make sense to us to spend resources to enforce that [...] If that's an issue in your country, then you police it.'
The poker Hall of Famer then clarified that it's most poker companies' policy that you're not allowed to do 'any of that stuff,' but reiterated his views on it.
'Do I think it makes sense personally to spend a lot of resources trying to catch these people? I don't. I don't have a problem with it.'
What do the Sites Say About VPNs?
Here's what the Terms & Conditions of the three major poker websites - GGPoker, partypoker and PokerStars - have to say about the use of a VPN:
GGPoker
GGPoker are the only one to explicitly mention VPNs in their T&Cs. Under section 15 of GGPoker's Security & Ecology Agreement it clearly states:
'GGPoker strictly prohibits users located in prohibited jurisdictions to use VPN/PROXY, remote desktops, or any alternative methods to mask their true location.
Should we determine that users are accessing GGPoker from prohibited countries, we may restrict their use of VPN/Proxy, or suspend the account and request Proof of Presence (“POP”).'
partypoker
There is no explicit mention of the term 'VPN' in the partypoker General Terms and Conditions. However, under section 2 it states:
'You may only use the Facilities if You are 18 years of age or over (or such other higher minimum legal age in Your jurisdiction) and it is legal for You to do so according to the laws that apply in Your jurisdiction.'
In section 6 of the same document it goes on to state:
'We forbid the use of all unfair practices when using the Facilities.'
PokerStars
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There is no explicit mention of the term 'VPN' in the PokerStars End User License Agreement. However, under section 5 it states:
'The Stars Group (TSG) prohibits persons located in (including temporary visitors) or residents of certain jurisdictions (including jurisdictions where persons are required to play according to the regulations in such jurisdiction, using the appropriately designated, licensed game client) from making deposits into their Stars Accounts or engage in Real Money Games.
'Any attempt to circumvent the restrictions on play by any persons located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction, is a breach of this Agreement. An attempt at circumvention includes, but is not limited to, manipulating the information used by TSG to identify your location and providing TSG with false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence. Any such attempt will entitle us to take such steps as we deem appropriate including, without limitation, seizing the funds in your Stars Account.'
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Click on the XP bar to find your personal stats.
You can find the Settings button in the top right corner of the game (next to the Poker Friends button).
Use the Settings button to change the Sound, Music, Notifications and more.
Click on the friend’s button between your inbox and settings button to find your Poker Friends.
Once you’ve clicked on it, you can see how many of your Facebook friends are playing GOP 3 and which of them are currently online.
Invite a Facebook friend who doesn’t play GOP by clicking “Invite your friends” at the top. Send a request to a Facebook friend who plays GOP to play with you in a specific table. Send free gifts to Facebook friends by clicking “Gift.”
Your inbox contains your messages from the game. It’s located in the top of the screen, between your inventory and Poker friends.
Check it for the following updates:
Big Win tournaments – collect your winnings here once the tournament has ended! Requests to play with friends – have a friend who plays Governor of Poker 3? When your friend invites you to play, you’ll get a request in your inbox. Accept to play and get ready to bust them!
Receive gifts – coins
Updates – check for updates about maintenance, deals and more!
Governor of Poker 3 has the following types of Cash Games:
Short-handed – limited to 5 players
Full table – limited to 8 players
Full table turbo – limited to 8 players, fast-paced
The different areas all feature all 3 types of Cash Games, so make sure to check them out wherever you are. Plus, each game has a different buy-in and blind. Find the one that suits you!
There are certain buildings in GOP 3 that are locked by level.
In order to unlock them and play in the Poker buildings, you can either level up and unlock them forever or use gold
To level up: complete achievements, bust players, even lose hands and earn XP. Your XP bar at the top of your screen shows you how close you are to the next level. Once you level up and unlock a building or area, you will have the ability to play there forever.
Achievement Menu
Click on the trophy icon in the topbar to open the Achievement menu.
Achievement progress
Here you can see the achievements you can obtain and the progress you have made so far.
Claim Reward
Once you complete an achievement a small pop-up will show telling you it's complete.
If you then go to the Achievement menu, you can claim the achievement and receive a reward.
Connect with Facebook to play Poker with your friends!
** Facebook login is only available on mobile devices and the Facebook platform **
Possibly ways to login with Facebook:
• When you first log in, you’ll have the option to Connect with Facebook. Click this button and you’re set!
• You also have the option to click on your Poker Friends button in the top right corner of the screen (just next to Settings),Once you’ve opened your Poker Friends panel, click “Connect to Facebook.” Once you’ve connected, you’ll be able to see which of your friends are playing GOP and invite them to play!
• You can also open your settings and click 'Connect to Facebook'
Note: we will never post on Facebook without your permission.
Go to settings and when you open the menu you see the button: Store your progress- Connect with Email
If you have a guest account (and no Facebook account) you can create an account. By doing so, you can play on several devices.
When you already a Facebook account, you can add an e-mail account as well.
If you already have progress on the other device, you need to select the account/progress you want to continue with:
As a double check you need to confirm you really want to continue with that specific account, you need to confirm by typing '1234' in the input field:
You have two choices:
1. Link your account with an e-mail adress.
2. Log in with Facebook (Only available on Mobile)
1. E-Mail
To log in with e-mail, follow these steps:
- Open Governor of Poker 3 on the device with the account you want to continue with on a new/other device.
- Go to settings and when you open the menu you see the button: Store your progress- Connect with Email
- Follow the flow to fill your email with 'create account'.
By adding your email adress, you can continue on new/other devices.
- Now open settings on your new/other device.
- Click the email linking button, but now instead of 'create account', select the 'login with email'.
If you already have progress on the new/other device, you need to select the account/progress you want to continue with:
As a double check you need to confirm you really want to continue with that specific account, you need to confirm by typing '1234' in the input field:
That's it! You're all set to play on both devices with the same account now!!
2. Facebook
You can also use the Facebook login to connect devices.
It's only possible to connect mobile devices with each other or to connect mobile devices with your facebook web account.
Steps:
- Current devicde: Click the Facebook login button in the login screen or settings menu
- New/other device: Click the Facebook login button in the login screen or settings menu
That's it! Both devices can play with the same account now.